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Update :  Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
Saturday 11-February-2012, 08:33,
Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
Dish TV vs. Tata Sky HD - DVR Feature


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Brief- Dish TV has
introduced DVR functionality in their Zapper box at no additional cost. Tata Sky
too has this feature however we are not promoting this feature as it is of low
quality and not cost effective option as compared to HD DVR STB. In case of
subscriber/customer’s queries, below is scenario handling details.


FAQ's-
  • Dish TV has recently announced that their Zapper box will support DVR
    functionality at no additional cost. What is this functionality?
    • This functionality is called DVR Lite
    • Concept: Allows subscribers to use the HD zapper box as a DVR (Digital Video
      Recorder) by plugging in a USB based flash drive (pen drive/ external hard disk
      drive)
    • Features:
      • The HD zapper box has a USB port
      • A USB based flash drive like a pen drive or an external hard disk drive can
        be connected to the box to create a hard disk functionality
      • The basic DVR features such as record ,rewind, fast forward etc becomes
        available on insertion of the flash drive
      • To use DVR features,the subscriber will have to buy a DVR remote
      • The recording capacity will depend on the capacity of the flash drive as
        well as the content that is being recorded (SD/HD)
  • Does Tata Sky also support the DVR Lite feature?
  • Yes, we also have this feature ready. It will be downloaded on all Kaon HD
    Zapper boxes later this month.

    In addition to the HD zapper boxes all
    existing & new subscribers will require:

    an HD DVR remote


    and a USB flash drive to be attached to the box. The subscriber can plug
    in any existing pen drive/ hard disk drive available at home

    Note:
    Tata Sky Samsung HD zapper STBs will currently not support this
    functionality. In case a Samsung HD STB subscriber is very keen to use this
    feature we will replace his box by a Kaon box.
  • Why is Tata Sky not pushing DVR Lite feature to its customers?
  • The DVR Lite is a sub-optimal product for someone who wants to enjoy the
    real DVR features. It does not score on both cost effectiveness and
    functionality compared to the HD DVR STB.

    A comparison table that
    enumerates the similarities and differences between the Tata Sky HD PVR and the
    DVR lite is enumerated below.



Feature
HD DVR
DVR Lite

Pause, Record, Rew & FF
Y
Y

Watch one and record another channel
Y
N

Record two channels simultaneously and playback an old recording
Y
N

Record SD & HD content
Y
Y

Remote with DVR functionality packaged with box
Y
N

Video on Demand Functionality
Y
N

Media storage optimized HDD
Y
N

500 GB hard disk drive
Free
Approx Rs 3.5k -4k additional


The recording
feature is heavily compromised on a DVR Lite because of the following reasons:
  • The flash drive has to be always connected to the STB for future recording
    to be enabled.
  • A normal SD definition hindi movie with advertisements runs for more than 4
    hours and needs more than 4 GB of storage space. Thus to download 20 hours
    content, the user will need to purchase atleast a 32 GB flash drive that will
    cost more than INR 1600 according to current market rates. Appreciable storage
    space in the range of 64 GB to 160 GB will be available for more than INR 2500.
  • Series based recording: Since the episodes will need to be recorded back to
    back ideally a dedicated flash drive will be required. Tremendous coordination
    will be required if the same USB drive needs to be plugged in daily at the same
    time. To record series a USB drive with a reasonable recording capacity will be
    recorded if the subscriber intends to store and playback on a later day in the
    week
  • Unlike the HD DVR which has a built-in hard disk supporting infinite no of
    program recordings and playbacks (Erase- Write cycles), flash drives support a
    limited no. erase write cycles post which they get spoilt. Hence, the flash
    drive will be able to handle a limited no. of recordings and playback
  • The data stored on the drive can't be read on any other STB or computer
  • Our DVR 500GB HDD is optimized to handle media based storage. On the other
    hand only few external storage devices are media optimized. The ones that are
    optimized are expensive.
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 08:36,
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:16,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
The best part of DVR lite that they have not mentioned id the ability to record and then transfer to a PC or Ext HDD,thus we will not need to invest in high capacity storage devices as mentioned above.
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:23,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:16)arsh25 Wrote: The best part of DVR lite that they have not mentioned id the ability to record and then transfer to a PC or Ext HDD,thus we will not need to invest in high capacity storage devices as mentioned above.
You can't
transfer to a PC or Ext HDD.As soon as you connect the ext HDD to DVR Lite it will ask for formatting and similarly whenever after recording something on HDD,you try to connect that to PC/Laptor for transferring purpose it will again ask for formatting.Formatting in both the cases must.So
transfer to a PC or Ext HDD is not possible.


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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:26,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:23)F1lover Wrote:
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:16)arsh25 Wrote: The best part of DVR lite that they have not mentioned id the ability to record and then transfer to a PC or Ext HDD,thus we will not need to invest in high capacity storage devices as mentioned above.
You can't
transfer to a PC or Ext HDD.As soon as you connect the ext HDD to DVR Lite it will ask for formatting and similarly whenever after recording something on HDD,you try to connect that to PC/Laptor for transferring purpose it will again ask for formatting.Formatting in both the cases must.So
transfer to a PC or Ext HDD is not possible.

Hmm,have you tried it?
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:27,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
Yes,on DIsh TV truHD+.. Sad
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:37,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:27)F1lover Wrote: Yes,on DIsh TV truHD+.. Sad

ok,you can try this on a PC:

go to run>cmd
on cmd:
type
Chkdsk e: /r where e: is the drive letter of your USB drive,this does a recovery and i have successfully used it to recover a corrupted memory card,try it and do reply.
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Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:39,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:37)arsh25 Wrote:
(Saturday 11-February-2012, 09:27)F1lover Wrote: Yes,on DIsh TV truHD+.. Sad

ok,you can try this on a PC:

go to run>cmd
on cmd:
type
Chkdsk e: /r where e: is the drive letter of your USB drive,this does a recovery and i have successfully used it to recover a corrupted memory card,try it and do reply.
Ok,will check and reply after returning home.
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Monday 13-February-2012, 11:04,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
Hey All..
I don't even no why is this Dish HD+ so much promoted...
Its of no use cos we have to purchase an additional storage device dedicated only to our set top box which will anyways incur cost....
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Monday 13-February-2012, 18:34,
RE: Dish tv versus tatasky HD - DVR feature
The main reason a recorder is needed, so that we can watch one channel and record the other. If Dish doesn't provide this feature its of no use, atleast for me.
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