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Another encryption added in 15 channels of TP 11170 H

Now the turn of TP 11170 H to add double Encryption . Tatasky added to 15 channels now.




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  1. Dino, Airtel also using two times same encryption.

  2. We can watch if they pair it. Just few things they will tell to the card.

  3. [quote=’Amatan’ pid=’33002′ dateline=’1424501346′]
    They can pair it!
    [/quote]

    Right , they only can pair it but we users can’t watch them in another DTH Card of same Encryption

  4. They can pair it!

  5. [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’33000′ dateline=’1424500767′]

    It won’t work, Videocon dh is having a Irdeto Card while Tata Sky has a NDS Card. How can a Irdeto Card work in NDS Software plus there r so many other settings which blocks usage of other cards even if encryption is same
    [/quote]

    I was talking about UHD Box which have NDS ECM.Both TS ,D2H Using the same box an dencryptions.
    I know it will not work because every DTH Operator is having differant KEY Codes for every ECM and even for every channels.

  6. [quote=’dayag’ pid=’32995′ dateline=’1424500341′]
    [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’32993′ dateline=’1424499903′]
    [quote=’Amatan’ pid=’32991′ dateline=’1424499756′]
    In any case now technically TS stbs can run on this right?
    [/quote]

    So by ur logic bro, even Videocon d2h and Reliance/Sun Direct can run in partnership. That does not hold logic, just using same encryption does not mean tat they will share transponders
    [/quote]

    I think you misread it . Probabley Amatan said as D2H Card will work in TS STB as both UHD Box is using same ECM.
    [/quote]

    It won’t work, Videocon dh is having a Irdeto Card while Tata Sky has a NDS Card. How can a Irdeto Card work in NDS Software plus there r so many other settings which blocks usage of other cards even if encryption is same

  7. One more i observed that either UHD Box is not having a Universal CAM but only NDS . or D2H added NDS for more security .mostly UHD Box is only having NDS CAM.

  8. Little more detailed diagram of how do they do it. This is what I meant they can simply add another RF equipment and why they need to add once more of CAS, Multiplexers.

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  9. Wait N Watch Amantan bro as in next few days we will get a clear picture

  10. That is also a good point Dayag.

  11. [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’32993′ dateline=’1424499903′]
    [quote=’Amatan’ pid=’32991′ dateline=’1424499756′]
    In any case now technically TS stbs can run on this right?
    [/quote]

    So by ur logic bro, even Videocon d2h and Reliance/Sun Direct can run in partnership. That does not hold logic, just using same encryption does not mean tat they will share transponders
    [/quote]

    I think you misread it . Probabley Amatan said as D2H Card will work in TS STB as both UHD Box is using same ECM.

  12. Ravi says it is possible like that. He or me didn’t tell they are going to do like that.

    If they simply add two ECMs to Insat 4A stream then when they start testing in some other xyz satellite then one ECM should vanish from 4A and in the xyz satellite only one ECM which got vanished from 4A should be shown!

  13. [quote=’Amatan’ pid=’32991′ dateline=’1424499756′]
    In any case now technically TS stbs can run on this right?
    [/quote]

    So by ur logic bro, even Videocon d2h and Reliance/Sun Direct can run in partnership. That does not hold logic, just using same encryption does not mean tat they will share transponders

  14. Regarding Tata Sky adding two NDS encryptions, it is for new satellite. U will see it happening across transponders and ultimately all these new settings will be applied to new tranponders

  15. In any case now technically TS stbs can run on this right?

  16. [quote=’Amatan’ pid=’32985′ dateline=’1424499383′]
    [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’32960′ dateline=’1424454465′]
    Ravi bhai, that’s impossible right now. Videocon d2h applied NDS Encryption as their new 4K STB has NDS Software so they had no option but to have Irdeto for other STB’s and NDS for 4K STB
    [/quote]

    They added NDS to stop hacking. D2H was hacked some time back so they added NDS and now those hackers are crying 😀

    What Ravi is telling I think is when Sun Direct with IR* and Big TV with se*,nag* can combine why not D2H and Tatasky be friends and do the same? D2H already added NDS. Insat 4A lifetime also ending. They both can share the costs and can give tough competition to others.
    [/quote]

    Amantan Bro, on this u r wrong. NDS Encryption was added on all channels as new 4K STB runs on NDS Software. U can even ask the CEO himself. This has nothing to do with more protection. If they had not added NDS then 4K STB viewers won’t be able to see any channels

  17. So with this you can see CA is done long before uplinking. So they can split the uplinking before the MOD into two and send one stream to some other MOD->transmitter which is for the new satellite.

  18. So Amantan bro what exactly do u want to convey with this and yes i am talking with regard to Tata Sky. Can u explain in simple terms

  19. Great tutorial Amatan. :love: Really this help everyone to understand how DTH works.

  20. [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’32960′ dateline=’1424454465′]
    Ravi bhai, that’s impossible right now. Videocon d2h applied NDS Encryption as their new 4K STB has NDS Software so they had no option but to have Irdeto for other STB’s and NDS for 4K STB
    [/quote]

    They added NDS to stop hacking. D2H was hacked some time back so they added NDS and now those hackers are crying 😀

    What Ravi is telling I think is when Sun Direct with IR* and Big TV with se*,nag* can combine why not D2H and Tatasky be friends and do the same? D2H already added NDS. Insat 4A lifetime also ending. They both can share the costs and can give tough competition to others.

  21. I am posting few images from White Paper on how DTH works. Dino see this.

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    This is what Sun Direct and Reliance doing:

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    What you see as ECM changes come from CA. A CA System is, therefore, typically coupled to a subscriber management system (SMS), and other back-office support systems (BSS) including those for billing.

    So with this you can see CA is done long before uplinking. So they can split the uplinking before the MOD into two and send one stream to some other MOD->transmitter which is for the new satellite.

  22. So what ?? see how RDTV and SD is working together even in 3 Encryptions. it’s nothing but share the TPs.

  23. Ravi bhai, that’s impossible right now. Videocon d2h applied NDS Encryption as their new 4K STB has NDS Software so they had no option but to have Irdeto for other STB’s and NDS for 4K STB

  24. [quote=’aumnamonarayana’ pid=’32905′ dateline=’1424436464′]
    They need to use 2 encryptions, one for uplinking to old satellite and one for new satellite
    [/quote]

    nds encryption applied to d2h satellite st2 now,so how about chances of tatasky using mono block?

  25. lets wait for Amatan ji ki paatshala

  26. Amantan Bro , if same channel say Zee TV is relayed on Intelsat 20 and Asiasat 7 on C Band. Obviously they will need to duplicate technical parameters as it will be uplinked diff satellites. U can’t just have all tech parameters on one satellite and relay on the other one without anything. So what i want to say is they must be testing technical readings for new sat on old sat

  27. What they need to test again? On new transponder according to bandwidth channels might be packed there.
    When Sun Direct moved we never saw anything like this.

  28. EPG is also popping up randomly right now.

    Amantan and Dayag bro may be first they r testing parameters for new satellite on old satellite and they will directly activate new transponders by applying new setting on it at the same time

  29. Amantan bro, i don’t exactly all info about such stuff but i am quite sure it is related to new satellite

  30. I agree with Amatan. How can the addition of new ECM scan from new satellite TP in the existing old Satellite TP 🙁

  31. Now 1 more channel in 2 ECM

    * Updated *
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    1) Nick (Nick TV @ Rs 25 pm) 11170, H, 32000 Number of ECM pids(1=>2)
    edited the Title.

  32. Unable to understand the logic. If you are right then also it should show only one encryption for Dayag as he is scanning only one satellite. So why will he get encryption meant for another satellite?

  33. They need to use 2 encryptions, one for uplinking to old satellite and one for new satellite

  34. Another step to satellite migration

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